For another thing, it puts distance between you and your cultural heritage. Let’s take a look at it. As to romanticized notions of what it is to be an Indian, in Europe they really fanaticize about Indians, running ads in newspapers to "get together" with an Indian! And trust me, I am not the one to scam the system and I am someone who wants to work my way up by myself, not b/c its right but b/c its who I am. It is not actually as hard as it sounds just because it has math in it.

They have to to show that they are Native Americans, which usually means being registered with one of the tribes. People should know that before they bother answering. And the loan to build muti-mill casino has to be paid first.

and in order to even apply for a scholarship for natives, you had better be enrolled in a federally recognized nation, not a hobby club or the "i'm part native too" tribe either. you just makin this all up. Or are you there just to see if you can cash in on a casino. Because I've noticed that many White and Black people of negligible native american ancestry are claiming to be native americans just to get government benefits, when they were never subjected to the same discrimination, lived on reservations, or even grew up with any type of native american cultural influence.

If anythin, they deserve them more than the rest of us. 2.)

I mean, I'm of Ghanaian, Lebanese, Irish, German and English Ancestry. I always laugh when I hear these people with 100% of european features who are claiming that they are "Native American".^^ it's just ridiculous !

Some tribes have high blood quantum requirements for enrollment while others do not.

Then i've met those 1/4 that can actually speak their language, and make fire. we do not automatically get scholarships.

But I'm sayin that these people who AREN'T really native americans are reaping the benefits that rightfully belong to others, and I think it aint right. REGARDLESS of Blood Quantum. I recently read where Europeans think that only Americans have such far-fetched notions about the American Indians. Why are people so hateful and abusive towards blacks ? Members of some Native American tribes receive cash payouts from gaming revenue. If you suffered losses because you were being discriminated against today, that would affect what you could give your children and grandchildren...you would want to be compensated for your losses, even after your death wouldn't you, even if your descendants were raised in a different culture?

Some speaking for the Cherokee nation say that if a person has even one Cherokee ancestor they can join the tribe, but they had to have been counted on the Dawes Roll. I do have Indian ancestors, from several different tribes. Some were brought up in the Indian traditions, but they are not the same as those whose ancestors were mainly Indians and should not make that claim. With a statement like that you’re essentially saying, “My grandmother was Native, but I am not.” When you claim your family, claim them all the way. This is the mathematical form to add some sort of clarity.

Benefits and Service. Probably true. If you google "indian pow-wows, you will indeed find many that are very much whites. But when it comes down to a tight situation, I'm saying that I would and in these situations ONLY I think its acceptable to use it. So in the case of grandparents it ¼ and in the case of great-grandparents, it's 1/8. Daughters of the American Revolution is a group for any woman who can trace her ancestry to someone who participated in the American Revolution, even if she herself was not raised with any revolutionary influence. Actually had a friend of small NA origin who went to university, free of charge, yet grew up relatively sheltered, middle class, and white (she is only 1/16th and doesn't look Native at all). I am one quarter Apache Indian. That is so hard for people to understand who never grew up with it. No...i'm not sayin that native americans shouldn't get scholarships.

Obviously not. I understand your point. I live in Phoenix, AZ and I'm wondering about trying to get tribal benefits. Conduct genealogical research. Because I've noticed that many White and Black people of negligible native american ancestry are claiming to be native americans just to get government benefits, when they were never subjected to the same discrimination, lived on reservations, or even grew up with any type of native american cultural influence. But i'm not allowed those benefits, I don't think this girl should have been.

Even if there are government benefits, people do not receive them because they make an unsubstantiated claim. Other than that, I totally agree it IS stretching it.

Don't get me wrong, like I said I hate people who do this all the time but using something to your advantage in a situation like scholarships isn't going to hurt anyone and its not like they'll put a 1/8 Navajo infront of a full one. My grandfather rode with our Uncle Red Cloud. Should she have been allowed to? My tribe only goes to one forth. In addition, Indians are the only peoples who have a sign language that can be understood by people speaking different languages.

By contrast, the American Sign Language is based upon 19th century America and cannot be readily understood even by English speaking Americans.

Half of all existing languages in the entire world are American Indian languages. My great grandma is 100% Native American. Like take me for instance. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I doubt its going to be put into anything worthwhile. Hence, ethnicity is divorced from ancestry to a great degree. NO.NO NO.

Mexican? What race of women do you find most intriguing and attractive? If a black light skinned woman with some black facial features but Caucasian ones as well has babies with a white skinned Asian man...? Why is it ok for blacks to say the racist n-word in their songs. The process for becoming a member of a Federally Recognized Tribe or Nation is a long and drawn out process and most people either give up or can't meet the requirements. again with the imaginary benefits question. Evidently you don't know what it takes to get benefits for being Native American...Benefits are only available for members of Federally Recognized Tribes or Nations. It takes years and years for that to happen because casino money goes to tribal heath care and education and housing first. Think it through. That is the ideal, but with more than 50% of the population being foreign, including the President, American ways of life have eroded. What you gonna do if we start speaking the native language around you? If you don't help out or take part in your culture, you're just as good to me as any non indian. Tell me, if you found out your great grandfather was Cherokee, would you not at least use it in a one off situation. And what are YOU going to bring to the tribal table? Then you are out after that. there are scholarships for all types of groups, not just natives. what benefits? But am I entitled to any grievances against the British when the majority of my ancestry isn't irish, and when I haven't lived the life of an irishman? you still have to compete for them like ALL scholarships. You see first there is no benefits (thats a lie racisy people make up to make people angry at us) and second you can't get registered in a federally regognized tribe (except one of the Cherokke bands) if you are less then 1/4. Share #17. tubachick-758 replies 51 threads Member. Well, in that case, I should be allowed to join the EU because my great grandparents were from Sweden and Norway.

How are you going feel if you start acting in taboo ways IF you ever come in contact with us? But, I was raised "white" so do not say I am Indian, just that I have Indian ancestry, same as Basques, Saami, and so forth. What do you think of the answers? I could understand if you was half, or even a quarter, because the original cultural heritage and influence is present in your immediate family. But, I agree: a person should identify with whatever is the majority of their ancestry. Join Yahoo Answers and get 100 points today. 'Well no it ain't fair b/c like you've said they haven't ''experienced'' being a Native American in a cultural or social sense. You are truly part of the culture you grow up with. I hate all types of scamming and its BS when people leech of the Government and take advantage but what else is the money going to be used for? That is also unfair; some were Cherokees with only Indian ancestry but were never counted in the Roll and hence can't be a "Cherokee". Before, the "only good Indian was a dead one" and now every one wants to claim Indian ancestry. I work for a school system so I know there are "box checkers" who think they will receive benefits by simply self-identifying as an American Indian/Alaska Native. They have to prove their ancestry. Also to join a tribe you MUST be able to prove it with birth records matched to a tribal list. the government does not give money to natives.

I want to use the money for college. So 98% of those people you are talking about aren't getting any benefits.... That's a very valid point. If a scholarship came up for Ghanaians, I would take it even though I haven't been discriminated as a Ghanaian, or a scholarship for people of Irish descent. Naw, Digga, I wouldn't. Will they recover from the current demographic winter? So in other words, ermy grandpa is 1/2, my dad is 1/4 and I'm 1/16. If I never knew the man and don't know anythin about Cherokee culture, I'm not gonna just put on some financial aid form that "oh yea, I'm Indian, give me money". ;). Which my grandfather was along with his parents. Indian Affairs, through its government-to-government relationship with federally recognized tribes, carries out the Federal Government's unique and continuing relationship with and responsibility to tribes and Indian people. You just can't say you are part indian and get in. There is so much to it than one great grand parent's watered down genes in you. You throw in 1 piece of candy and then you suddenly say "OH! Background. However, as long as you are enrolled you qualify.

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